According to Mohammad:
My part 3 of fake ex muslims has been removed. John Ankerberg has reported me for infringing copyright. It seems as though these people are reluctant to answer any questions and are instead using the copyright law to hide all the evidence. Be careful when using audios/videos that speak of Ergun Caner.
This is the notice Mohammad received.
Dear mokhan247,
We have disabled the following material as a result of a third-party notification from Dr. John F. Ankerberg, claiming that this material is infringing:
FAKE EX MUSLIM EXPOSED PART 3 Dr.Ergun Caner talks about his Journey from Islam to Christ
Please Note: Repeated incidents of copyright infringement will result in the deletion of your account and all videos uploaded to that account. In order to prevent this from happening, please delete any videos to which you do not own the rights and refrain from uploading additional videos that infringe on the copyrights of others. For more information about YouTube’s copyright policy, please read the Copyright Tips guide.
If one of your postings has been misidentified as infringing, you may submit a counter-notification. Information about this process is in our Help Centre.
Please note that under Section 512(f) of the Copyright Act, any person who knowingly materially misrepresents that material was disabled due to mistake or misidentification may be liable for damages.
Yours sincerely,
– The YouTube Team
I think they are going to recieve a counter-notification.
Be sure and read why Mohammad believes John Ankerberg did this. I agree. It pretty much cannot be denied. John Ankerberg would suffer financially if Ergun was found to have made up his background. He and Ergun wrote a few books together. Remember? And the web keeps spinning and spinning.
Also see Dr. Caner’s 2002 interview with Pat Robertson on the 700 Club! Thanks for the one who sent me this link.
Pat Robertson interview with Ergun Caner 2001.
I would also ask for information concerning a UN speech that Dr. Caner gave in 2001. You can hear his mentioning of this on the speech he gave at FBC Jax church here. If anyone has a transcript or recording, any information contact would be appreciated.
Today is my 26th Wedding anniversary. Thank God for a great husband who supports me fully in this. God gave me a great partner. I have never felt that more than now. Thank you honey for your words.
Comments on: "John Ankerberg Has Had Part 3 of Mohammad’s Videos Removed" (15)
Why is John Ankerberg covering up for Ergun Caner? At the very least, this video is protected under the fair use and commentary section of the US copyright law.
Based on 15 years of observation of the war between the “church” of $cientology and the Internet, I can predict that the video (1) will reappear (2) in more places than before and (3) will get attention far beyond what the original maker would have thought.
In short, John Ankerberg Ministries made a big mistake. I suspect they’ll figure that out in a few days.
Everyone needs to read EFF, especially Bloggers Rights. Also Fair Use – Questions and Answers.
It might be wise to retain a lawyer who will work with you too.
Most of the DMCA take down notices can be contested if Fair Use is applicable.
I agree mirele. It just shows me how corrupt being a celebrity and star in the Christian world is. If this would have been Amy Grant, or a host of other singers that the we have boycotted and thrown to the wolves for dinner, this would not even be an issue of infringement. I am so angry right now that I am going to speak out even louder. This is ridiculous and the facts are facts. They can’t deal with the facts so they decide to erase them. John Ankerberg is using his power, but the truth is even more powerful. That I do believe. Remember John Ankerberg will suffer financially from this too. He co-wrote with Ergun several books.
Notice Ergun is standing back. Living his life, still speaking, traveling, knowing all this is going on, and just as those who verbally attacked Mohamamd, says nothing. Just lets it happen. What does that say about Ergun or Emir? Not a whole lot. They let others do their dirty work while they tell of Christ? That is the height of blasphemy in my opinion.
Very happy anniversary to the both of you!
Thank you Byron. We celebrated this weekend. My husband did a great job.
I think he ought to give lessons for how to celebrate an anniversary properly. He had me in tears. He was going to take me to Arlington to see Dr. McKissic and his family, but a phone call from Dwight confirmed that he would be in Chicago with his sister who is graduating and receiving a very important doctorate degree. That of course was much more important. So we will reschedule.
Hey Debbie first of all congratulations on your anniversary and I hope you have a wonderful day
Now back to Ergun Caner….. I can not believe that John Ankerberg would contact Youtube to get these videos removed I mean how low can you get!!!
You know im glad you reposted all of Mohammad Khan’s videos because I have just watched them all and i mean from 1 to 17 and you know what, you forget how much Mohammad Khan has exposed that we have forgoten about. As i watching these videos I was like Oh yeah I forget about that piece of evidence. For Example how Ergun and Emir edited their websites and erased the year they converted because they contridicted each other and I managed to view Video 3 (the one that was removed) and when they were on the John Ankerberg show they make 2 big mistakes that were later edited out lol.
This man Ergun the deciever of many just amazes me but what amazes me even more is the fact he still has people following him. I find it funny how NO one can prove one of his big mistakes right or come out and say why has Ergun changed his BIO and deleted and edited so many other things its just amazing.
lol what really made me laugh is when he fooled his audience into thinking he can speak Arabic or Turkish that was so funny when he tried to speak his mother tongue. When I show people that clip I dont tell them anything as in I dont tell them he’s trying to speak arabic or turkish and there recation is always, ‘what the hell was that’ lol
Were is my friend Tim G gone I miss him NOT
Thoughts of Francis Turretin > Compare and Contrast.
Dr. Ergun Caner (actual quotation): “All Christian ministers have critics. Some mean well; Others are just corrosive. U can’t shut them up, but U CAN SHUT THEM OUT.” (source).
A Squirrel in Babylon > More Questions in Search of Answers.
Poor John Ankerberg. Just harmed his credibility by reporting the video. If he had used his mind, he would have distanced himself from the lies of the Caner brothers and not said anything.
http://www.fakeexmuslims.com/videoremovedankerberg.htm
If the video is made available to me, I will post it to my YouTube account and deal with any DMCA takedown requests. I have informally consulted with a lawyer and confirmed my belief that the video is “fair use” and non-infringing.
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Some Moslems have high ethical standar as well as some Christians also have high ethical standards. In this Caner’s case I realize that somebody can be a habitual lier for as long as more than a decade and got promoted to become president of a seminary–training people to become arrogant Baptist preachers? It is really sad. Somebody addicted to lying known to the public is still being protected by Baptist leaders. How low can you all Baptist leaders go to protect a liar? Your quietness is a passive acceptance of a liar remain a Baptist seminary leader. Would you or your kids allowed to be taught by a liar? A psychologist said: the reason they are quiet is because they are suffering from the same disease (Bible: sin)
Calcun
Videos 1 thru 10 still available here:
http://www.liveleak.com/user/-TruthExposer-
Focus on the family audio download was available here:
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/FocusOnTheFamilyDailyBroadcast/~3/CGMTi10uAOQ/ffd_20100426.mp3
So Wade bowed out, comment page gone, hmmm, another causality of the Body Snatchers as Ronnie Floyd announces
“God answered! Final report adopted unanimously by task force; released publicly May 3rd, a special day!”
4:31 PM Apr 26th
The comments below that transcript w/ Pat Robertson are testimony to how someone like Ergun Caner can hugely influence people negatively. I was amazed to hear how people just believed it all (along with Pat Robertson). I was shocked to hear him say that former Muslims who become Christians don’t use the word Allah for God. This is just not a true generalization whatsoever. It’s true that you will hear many Arabic-speaking Christians use the Arabic word for “my Lord” (Yarabi-exuse my spelling if that isn’t the best Romanization) often, like in prayer, but hello, the Arabic Bible uses the word Allah! If you don’t believe me, go look up John 1:1 in the Arabic Bible. It will use the word الله which is read, Allah, referring to God (or Elohim)! It is merely an Arabic word that translates as God (or god), as does other languages. [NEWS ALERT: Jesus spoke Aramaic, which sounds and looks even closer to Arabic than Hebrew is, and when he referred to God, he would have used the same word, which sounds like "Ellaha." Perhaps it would mess with our false Western images of a blond Jesus spouting American English to see/hear what Jesus really looked/sounded like--a non-European Middle Eastern man speaking what would sound to us like Arabic! Have we forgotten what he sounded like in "The Passion of the Christ"?]
I also couldn’t believe that he was basically accusing the President of basically being a covert Muslim by eating with Muslims during Ramadan. Iftar as NOT the “same” as closed communion. That is a very, very misleading comparison. If you live in a Muslim country and go over to a neighbor’s house for dinner during Ramadan, does that mean you’re professing your belief in Islam? Absolutely not–non-Muslims are welcome to join in for dinner. Westerners would actually be surprised by the unbelievable hospitality in the Arab world (were Christians to practice half of what they practice culturally, we would have a church twice as large and healthy). And trust me, it’s hardly a religious ceremony! I cannot believe that he would say this, as though we Christians are bound to another law. When I lived in the Muslim world, while I was not expected to (as I was respected as one who followed the Messiah and read the Injil), I often fasted during Ramadan because everyone was doing so and it greatly helped me to understand how people were feeling (tired and hungry!). It was also a wonderful opportunity to talk about fasting and the difference between what the Bible and Qur’an say about it. I found that many people loved to hear the words of God in Isaiah 58 (a chapter about justice and hypocrisy that just gripped people), and discuss what Jesus taught about fasting. I cannot emphasize enough how many opportunities I had to openly discuss the Bible during Ramadan due to this topic. Just because I was fasting during Ramadan and thereby observing a huge cultural tradition did not mean that I was signing up to be a Muslim. Followers of Jesus can fast at will, last time I checked the Bible. The Scriptures make it clear that we are not bound by religious law. The Jewish believers in the early church still participated in their cultural religious traditions knowing that it wasn’t those things that actually justified them; Paul is a great example of a Jew who at times observed such things and at times did not. He was not beholden to them but could actually consecrate these practices to Christ when he did observe them (consider the Jewish apostles who knew that sacrifices at the temple were not what justified them, yet still participated in the feasts). Now, I know there are plenty of Christians who would condemn me (along with the president, whom they love do condemn regularly, no matter what he does or doesn’t do), but I maintain that the statement in that interview is misleading and not constructive to anyone’s better understanding of Islam.
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